U.K. Growing Season & Latitude

[Jersey Devil]

Found this flower today It smells.

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How long is the growing season there across the pond ? Does it freeze in Winter? Snow? I see growing zone is 9. Thats pretty mild. And it probably does not get too hot in Summer. You must have an awesome enviroment for gardening.

 

[Tetters]

Zigs has just made a new video @Jersey Devil for his coast and country YouTube channel. I will ask him to put it on here for you especially (he won't mind if the others peep) We live right in the centre of ''the garden of england'' and feel very lucky to be here. I'm sure Zigs will add more! He's talking to his YT people at the moment.

 

[Zigs]

How long is the growing season there across the pond ? Does it freeze in Winter? Snow? I see growing zone is 9. Thats pretty mild. And it probably does not get too hot in Summer. You must have an awesome enviroment for gardening.

Good questions @Jersey Devil

We have to start a few things under cover as they need a longer season than our summer. Peppers, tomatoes, leeks and onions spring to mind.

We do get snow and ice, frost starts about now and can carry on till April. Mid May is our "safe" planting outside time but we can still get caught out.

We are way, way North of America latitude wise (apart from Alaska of course )...



we only usually stay ice free because of the North Atlantic Drift though. When that decided to divert round the other side of Greenland in 2010, our harbours froze up

Strangely enough, that wasn't reported on any main stream media at the time as it didn't fit in with their climate change narrative Hard to tell folk that the planet is getting too hot when the sea freezes solid.

The start of this video was filmed this morning, the stills at the end are from a previous winter.

 

[Anniekay]

I think the winters are getting colder while the summers are getting hotter. They moved my area from 8b to 9a. It feels like 9a in summer but more like 8a in winter !! Confusing, that

Sycamores !! Too difficult to break down those leaves .

 

[Zigs]

I think the winters are getting colder while the summers are getting hotter. They moved my area from 8b to 9a. It feels like 9a in summer but more like 8a in winter !! Confusing, that

We are getting slightly warmer, which is a good thing, we're coming out of the little ice age which was a cold period lasting about 400 years to mid Victorian times where the River Thames regularly froze over and thousands of people died of the cold. Despite all the "hot air" from the climate alarmists we've only actually got 1 point 6 degrees warmer over 80 years. Hardly a cause for panic.

 

[Sandy Ground]

Even if I dont live in the UK, heres my input on this.

On the face of things, a 1,6C rise in temperature does not seem a lot. Here, its made noticable changes. 30 years ago, Hydrangeas could not be grown, as they froze. Now, they grow quite well. 15 years ago, Quince could not be growwn here as it was too cold. Now, they do reasonably well, and I usually get a good crop. Obviously, the local growing season is short.

@Anniekay made a good point. The winters do seem to be getting colder, and the Summers warmer. It also seems that there has been a kind of "shift" in the seasons. There does not seem to be Spring or Autumn anymore, just Summer and Winter. Years ago, the motorbike riding season started at the beginning of April, annd finished at the end of September. Nowadays, its May to October.

I'm in agreement with one thing @Zigs said. We are coming out of a mini ice age. Think about this. Pre 1000AD. the climate in Greenland was warm enough to allow grain crops to b grown. 100 or so years later, it was too cold.

The only thing that I am certain of is that growing seasons everywhere are changing. Is that all because of a 1,6C degree change?

 

[Jersey Devil]

Thats what is so confusing. Admittedly you are much farther north than I am yet you are in a zone 9 while I am in between a 6 and 7. And Annie is in Georgia and says she is in 8 or 9 which is same as you but yet you are much furthur north than me. (scrathing head). I realize the gulf stream and currents and ocean temps controlling things, but its strange . You in England may get frost and snow, but we in Nu Joisey get bone chilling fridgid weather at times. Funny, you can grow stuff in Jersey, that we can"t grow in New Jersey

 

[Jersey Devil]

I think the winters are getting colder while the summers are getting hotter. They moved my area from 8b to 9a. It feels like 9a in summer but more like 8a in winter !! Confusing, that

Sycamores !! Too difficult to break down those leaves .

I got tons of sycamores. How I hate those itchy balls

 

[Jersey Devil]

Even if I dont live in the UK, heres my input on this.

On the face of things, a 1,6C rise in temperature does not seem a lot. Here, its made noticable changes. 30 years ago, Hydrangeas could not be grown, as they froze. Now, they grow quite well. 15 years ago, Quince could not be growwn here as it was too cold. Now, they do reasonably well, and I usually get a good crop. Obviously, the local growing season is short.

@Anniekay made a good point. The winters do seem to be getting colder, and the Summers warmer. It also seems that there has been a kind of "shift" in the seasons. There does not seem to be Spring or Autumn anymore, just Summer and Winter. Years ago, the motorbike riding season started at the beginning of April, annd finished at the end of September. Nowadays, its May to October.

I'm in agreement with one thing @Zigs said. We are coming out of a mini ice age. Think about this. Pre 1000AD. the climate in Greenland was warm enough to allow grain crops to b grown. 100 or so years later, it was too cold.

The only thing that I am certain of is that growing seasons everywhere are changing. Is that all because of a 1,6C degree change?

People thought I was nuts when I used to mentioned how I thought the seasons were changing. Now I read where the magnetic poles have shifted, AND that the tilt of the Earth has changed. IDK about the internet, but I saw a You Tube video on the Three Gorges Dam in China. They said the reservoir it created was so big it changed the tilt of the Earth. IDK Is that possible or is it fake news from MSNBC

 

[Jersey Devil]

Good questions @Jersey Devil

We have to start a few things under cover as they need a longer season than our summer. Peppers, tomatoes, leeks and onions spring to mind.

We do get snow and ice, frost starts about now and can carry on till April. Mid May is our "safe" planting outside time but we can still get caught out.

We are way, way North of America latitude wise (apart from Alaska of course )...

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we only usually stay ice free because of the North Atlantic Drift though. When that decided to divert round the other side of Greenland in 2010, our harbours froze up

Strangely enough, that wasn't reported on any main stream media at the time as it didn't fit in with their climate change narrative Hard to tell folk that the planet is getting too hot when the sea freezes solid.

The start of this video was filmed this morning, the stills at the end are from a previous winter.

Beautiful. So fortunate

 

[Zigs]

Even if I dont live in the UK, heres my input on this.

On the face of things, a 1,6C rise in temperature does not seem a lot. Here, its made noticable changes. 30 years ago, Hydrangeas could not be grown, as they froze. Now, they grow quite well. 15 years ago, Quince could not be growwn here as it was too cold. Now, they do reasonably well, and I usually get a good crop. Obviously, the local growing season is short.

@Anniekay made a good point. The winters do seem to be getting colder, and the Summers warmer. It also seems that there has been a kind of "shift" in the seasons. There does not seem to be Spring or Autumn anymore, just Summer and Winter. Years ago, the motorbike riding season started at the beginning of April, annd finished at the end of September. Nowadays, its May to October.

I'm in agreement with one thing @Zigs said. We are coming out of a mini ice age. Think about this. Pre 1000AD. the climate in Greenland was warm enough to allow grain crops to b grown. 100 or so years later, it was too cold.

The only thing that I am certain of is that growing seasons everywhere are changing. Is that all because of a 1,6C degree change?

Before 1000AD we could grow grapes in the North of England too, they only grow well in the South now.

1.6c doesn't seem much but in the last interglacial it was up to 5 degrees warmer (another fact the climate grifters try to ignore) This was warm enough for Hippos and Croccodiles to live where London is now.

 

[Zigs]

Thats what is so confusing. Admittedly you are much farther north than I am yet you are in a zone 9 while I am in between a 6 and 7. And Annie is in Georgia and says she is in 8 or 9 which is same as you but yet you are much furthur north than me. (scrathing head). I realize the gulf stream and currents and ocean temps controlling things, but its strange . You in England may get frost and snow, but we in Nu Joisey get bone chilling fridgid weather at times. Funny, you can grow stuff in Jersey, that we can"t grow in New Jersey

Putting it simply, the Equator is nearer the sun so gets more heat than the poles. When it gets hot the heat rises and goes to the cooler poles. If the planet wasn't rotating it would go straight from South to North (in the Northern hemisphere) but because of the rotation it's deflected about 45 degrees so the hot bit from the Gulf of Mexico goes across the Atlantic to us.

We get the bone chilling fridgid weather from the Continent when we get a blocking high pressure system that stops the gulf stream so it goes around us. When that happens it's bloomin cold for weeks and we all have to wear scarves.

Our island of Jersey is just off the coast of France so it's the most Southern part of the British Isles, that's where we get the earliest crops from.

I believe your New Jersey has got Bruce Springsteen in it

 

[Zigs]

People thought I was nuts when I used to mentioned how I thought the seasons were changing. Now I read where the magnetic poles have shifted, AND that the tilt of the Earth has changed. IDK about the internet, but I saw a You Tube video on the Three Gorges Dam in China. They said the reservoir it created was so big it changed the tilt of the Earth. IDK Is that possible or is it fake news from MSNBC

The Moon is slowly moving away from us. It keeps the planet in check. When it moves too far away we will tilt so far that the equator will shift to the poles and back. That'll mess the tomato growing season right up

 

[Anniekay]

The Moon is slowly moving away from us. It keeps the planet in check. When it moves too far away we will tilt so far that the equator will shift to the poles and back. That'll mess the tomato growing season right up

That's what I think froze the Wooly Mammoths they keep digging up out of the permafrost in Russia and elsewhere, the poles could've shifted far enough and fast enough to freeze them solid.

Let's not think about that !!

 

[Anniekay]

I got tons of sycamores. How I hate those itchy balls

I hate 'em more than you. Got the scars in my scalp to prove it. A sycamore nut falling from 80' or so almost knocked me out once !!

 

[Jersey Devil]

Putting it simply, the Equator is nearer the sun so gets more heat than the poles. When it gets hot the heat rises and goes to the cooler poles. If the planet wasn't rotating it would go straight from South to North (in the Northern hemisphere) but because of the rotation it's deflected about 45 degrees so the hot bit from the Gulf of Mexico goes across the Atlantic to us.

We get the bone chilling fridgid weather from the Continent when we get a blocking high pressure system that stops the gulf stream so it goes around us. When that happens it's bloomin cold for weeks and we all have to wear scarves.

Our island of Jersey is just off the coast of France so it's the most Southern part of the British Isles, that's where we get the earliest crops from.

I believe your New Jersey has got Bruce Springsteen in it

And the "REAL" Sopranos

 

[Zigs]

That's what I think froze the Wooly Mammoths they keep digging up out of the permafrost in Russia and elsewhere, the poles could've shifted far enough and fast enough to freeze them solid.

Let's not think about that !!

Something caught them out to freeze that quick, more likely a storm though. Our fishing trawlers in the North Sea keep dredging up Mammoth bones and tusks, they got caught out about 8,000 years ago when a Tsunami wiped out Doggerland. Britain's biggest disaster. They reckon upwards of 10,000 people drowned.

 

[Anniekay]

Something caught them out to freeze that quick, more likely a storm though. Our fishing trawlers in the North Sea keep dredging up Mammoth bones and tusks, they got caught out about 8,000 years ago when a Tsunami wiped out Doggerland. Britain's biggest disaster. They reckon upwards of 10,000 people drowned.

Is that why they can't find anyone with DNA from the people who originally lived in the UK? I heard that on TV, if I Remember correctly, they said that noone living in the Uk has ancient DNA, it's all from europeans and scandinavians that travelled there after Doggerland went under water.

 

[Zigs]

Is that why they can't find anyone with DNA from the people who originally lived in the UK? I heard that on TV, if I Remember correctly, they said that noone living in the Uk has ancient DNA, it's all from europeans and scandinavians that travelled there after Doggerland went under water.

That's an interesting one Annie Oldest DNA here is 15,000 - 13,500 years ago at the end of the ice age, so well before Doggerland was flooded. There would have been plenty of folk left on the main island but it's quite possible they were replaced by waves of immigration. First lot that we can trace lingustically are the Celts, who probably came from India. ( I noticed that counting in Welsh from 1 to 5 sounds almost the same as counting in Punjabi) The Celts got pushed to the fringes of the islands (Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall ) (and Brittany across the channel in France, who also have a Celtic language still today) The new lot were Romans followed Angles, Saxons and Danes.

Now we have the entire world dropping in on us so it's happening again

 

[Zigs]

I hate 'em more than you. Got the scars in my scalp to prove it. A sycamore nut falling from 80' or so almost knocked me out once !!

I think it must be a different tree to ours, we only have keys over here.

Looks like a key. What key? A key from a tree. What tree? A Sycamore key from a Sycamore tree. Now if Sycamore trees are the only ones with keys on, it seems to me there has to be a reason. I've got a funny feeling it's the changing of the season. Does everyone agree about the key? Yes, everyone agrees about the key....

From the new series of Worzel Gummage. Best thing to come out of the bbc before I stopped watching the leftie propaganda channel.